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[Ian Williams]

Martin is not true that the Wales was never a country until modern times and the seperate welsh kingdoms came under the rule of both the Romans and then William I. Scotland on the other hand was independent until finally conquered but by then was a country in it own right and had its own King something the Welsh and the rest of the Briton's have never had. I know some Welsh people today like to think that they are different but the truth of the matter is that Scotland is the only part of the island which remained free and independent of Rome and as such can be considered differently from the rest.

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The other often overlooked fact is that William was of Viking descent so Britain actually remained under Dane rule