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11-05-2022, 07:00 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-05-2022, 07:06 PM by Tony Griffiths.)
(11-05-2022, 04:06 PM)Tony Betts Wrote: isnt post vintage, really pre-war?
personally i think its all ridiculas,
especially having to try and remember that long list of dribble. to find out if your car is remamufactured or a special.
lets just call it all evocation  although ive not seen that in the auctions for a wile.
tony
Let's cut to the chase - they are all fakes.
(11-05-2022, 03:28 PM)Ruairidh Dunford Wrote: Well, I thought I'd give it a few minutes - but an hour later I'm still here; an utterly brilliant performance.
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“Let’s cut to the chase, they are all fakes.” Hang on, my Ruby is not a fake! But then it wasn’t built in Coventry in 1952, it doesn’t have an electric fan, it hasn’t got an alternator instead of a Dynamo….so genuinely ineligible then.
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11-05-2022, 07:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-05-2022, 07:21 PM by dickie65.)
Going back to the cars parentage.
I just love using the term Mongrel !!!
Its the closest description possible for a lot of dodgy cars.
I tell people that the engine in my 65 is a Mongrel made from bits and pieces with a few original bits on show.
I also describe my modern sports car as a Mongrel as it has the shell from one car suspension gearbox doors bonnet bootlid from another car and the engine came from two different generations of the model both later than the body shell. Intake system is from a Suzuki motorbike.
It was UK registered through the Nova System during lockdown.
Wait another 70 years and it will be a genuine original car with competition history !!!!!!!
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I used to get quite sick of people asking me if the Ulster was “real”, my response was that “it was not a hologram, so far as I was aware”.
These day I just ask “you tell me”?
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were does mungrel fit in the list.
is it somewere between reconstruction and faximale.
and could we have a 4 page explenasion on what makes it a mungrel?
hi R,
the first time heard simular to your reply was over 30 years ago with waynes rushins ulster rep/copy faximile, evocation.
when asked is it real, his reply was. you tell me.
tony
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11-05-2022, 11:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-05-2022, 11:13 PM by Duncan Grimmond.)
I see there is a a "very original" seven on ebay. IMHO original is a bit like unique, it is or it isn't so you can't have "degrees of uniqueness" (or should that be uniquity?)
I suppose it can be "partly original"with additions or totally original without additions ....
Pedants corner strikes again!
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(11-05-2022, 07:14 PM)Steve kay Wrote: “Let’s cut to the chase, they are all fakes.” Hang on, my Ruby is not a fake! But then it wasn’t built in Coventry in 1952, it doesn’t have an electric fan, it hasn’t got an alternator instead of a Dynamo….so genuinely ineligible then.
No, your Ruby is fine - as are all as-built cars, but, ''fake it up' to be something else (e.g. standard escort into Mexico) and it's - a fake. Naturally, dealers will never, ever use the term, to them, it's a _________________ insert your choice.
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With regards to the 1929 " Racing Special" !!!
I think Eric Morecambe would describe it as> All the right parts, but not necessarily in the right order ????
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Should there not be a Triggers Brush classification? - even an award for the newest example with complete paperwork trail! Now that would be rare!
Perhaps telescopic hydraulic shock absorbers, age related of course, should be welcomed? After all the Singer Junior in 1929 had them as standard and Newtons advertised them for fitting to Austin 7 with the advert showing a sketch of a Chummy. Clearly an in-period modification.
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