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Electric vehicles
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Alan
Respecting your engineering knowledge, whilst I get the core argument that everything, including the sun will run out of energy eventually and so isn't strictly speaking renewable, 5 billion years or so is enough and will see the end to the world anyway.
So making use of 'free' energy, be it wind, sun, hydro or wave must be a fundamentally good thing. The question of course then goes to the damage caused in making the equipment required to capture/store this energy.

In my previous life I had contact with Culham labs etc through supplying equipment used to work on nuclear fusion (ie replicating the sun) rather than fission (the bomb). Fusion is safer for a multitude of reasons not least because it naturally stops rather than runs away.
The problem with fusion has been getting more power out that you put in to create the right conditions.

I have just installed solar panels and the whole system has a 20 year insurance backed guarantee so they must be confident that it will last, but again I haven't calculated the environmental cost of producing the equipment. I also have a hot water tube system which has been using the sun to heat water for 15 years now using a simple thermal syphon system and no sign of it failing.

Innovatine systems which, for example, use surplus solar power in the day to pump water uphill and then lets it run back down to use it to power turbines when the sun isn't shining just seem to make sense. accepting that scaling is an issue for these types of systems. Again the environmental damage must be understood if damming is considered to create hydro power.

oh and I do think that sometimes we need 14 year old schoolgirls to stare Trump down and to ask the questions everyone else feels silly asking, or worry that it will end their career. Emperor's new clothes and all that.
Andy
Enjoy yourself, it's later than you think!
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Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 13-10-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 13-10-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 13-10-2019, 10:45 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 13-10-2019, 11:57 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Rick F - 14-10-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 14-10-2019, 12:40 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 01:06 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 05:43 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 14-10-2019, 06:36 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 07:01 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 14-10-2019, 07:15 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 07:30 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 07:46 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 14-10-2019, 07:47 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 14-10-2019, 07:49 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Howard Wright - 14-10-2019, 08:18 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 14-10-2019, 08:20 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 14-10-2019, 09:09 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 14-10-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 14-10-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 14-10-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 14-10-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Robert Leigh - 14-10-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 14-10-2019, 11:19 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by stuartu - 14-10-2019, 12:55 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 14-10-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by spannerman - 14-10-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tod - 14-10-2019, 08:20 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tod - 14-10-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 14-10-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Parazine - 14-10-2019, 09:21 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 14-10-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 10:30 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 14-10-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 14-10-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Phil Kingdom - 15-10-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Steve Hainsworth - 15-10-2019, 07:29 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 15-10-2019, 07:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Mike Costigan - 15-10-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Steve Hainsworth - 15-10-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 15-10-2019, 10:57 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 15-10-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 15-10-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AustinWood - 15-10-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 15-10-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 15-10-2019, 12:24 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 15-10-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 15-10-2019, 01:16 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Jack in the Box - 15-10-2019, 01:29 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by JonE - 15-10-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Mr Pharmacist - 15-10-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 15-10-2019, 05:38 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by spannerman - 15-10-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 15-10-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 15-10-2019, 10:34 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 16-10-2019, 05:35 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 16-10-2019, 06:32 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 16-10-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 22-10-2019, 07:33 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 22-10-2019, 07:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 22-10-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-10-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Hugh Barnes - 22-10-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-10-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Jason Franzone - 22-10-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 23-10-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 23-10-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 23-10-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 23-10-2019, 03:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 24-10-2019, 09:53 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 24-10-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 24-10-2019, 10:26 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 24-10-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 24-10-2019, 07:44 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 24-10-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 25-10-2019, 08:42 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 25-10-2019, 11:43 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 26-10-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 26-10-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 26-10-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 26-10-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 27-10-2019, 08:40 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin Carr - 27-10-2019, 09:39 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by John Mason - 27-10-2019, 10:03 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 27-10-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ivor Hawkins - 27-10-2019, 11:34 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by John Mason - 27-10-2019, 11:58 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by David.H - 27-10-2019, 11:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 28-10-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 28-10-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 28-10-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 28-10-2019, 09:26 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Colin Reed - 28-10-2019, 10:03 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 28-10-2019, 11:53 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 29-10-2019, 01:31 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 29-10-2019, 08:48 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 29-10-2019, 09:07 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 29-10-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 29-10-2019, 10:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 12-11-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 12-11-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 13-11-2019, 12:03 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Henry Harris - 20-11-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 21-11-2019, 10:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Henry Harris - 22-11-2019, 07:06 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 22-11-2019, 11:23 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-11-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 22-11-2019, 07:56 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Colin Morgan - 31-12-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 31-12-2019, 07:27 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 31-12-2019, 10:07 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Barry Townsend - 01-01-2020, 07:12 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Phil Kingdom - 01-01-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Barry Townsend - 01-01-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 01-01-2020, 10:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 01-01-2020, 11:16 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by goldmountain - 02-07-2020, 08:12 PM

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