The following warnings occurred:
Warning [2] Undefined variable $search_thread - Line: 60 - File: showthread.php(1617) : eval()'d code PHP 8.1.28 (Linux)
File Line Function
/inc/class_error.php 153 errorHandler->error
/showthread.php(1617) : eval()'d code 60 errorHandler->error_callback
/showthread.php 1617 eval




Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Bowdenex REAR levers
#5
(25-04-2019, 09:18 PM)Ian Williams Wrote: I am a fan of CORRECTLY assembled and set up Bowdenex conversions ...... and I am assuming you have a std uncompensated cross shaft with standard leverage ratios? With all non standard set ups there is an element of trial and error when trying to make it work, for every action we take there is usually a trade off of some kind.

Thanks for such comprehensive and helpful advice, Ian. Yes, the RN has an uncompensated cross shaft, although not quite standard as it is solid bar rather than tube, but fitted with standard length levers. It seems a previous owner put some effort into the braking system as all the cross shaft bushes have been replaced and have no play in them. In fact, after being unused for a few years, they had seized to the cross-shaft.

(26-04-2019, 01:10 AM)Bob Culver Wrote: ......What is total length of arms?
I have asked before but no responses, but can long levers be fitted to rear pre Ruby axles (without inverting) I suspect the Ruby axle has the cams further forward enabling long levers. Has car got original diff?

Bob. For length of the rear arms, please see below. As for whether they fit on pre-Ruby axles, they seem fine on the RN, without being inverted. If anything, they could sit a little further back.

(26-04-2019, 07:30 AM)Speedex750 Wrote: Hi John,

The SPEEDEX site is under reconstruction, kindly to be hosted by the A7CA (note to self; must get my finger out with it).

The rear levers you describe are for the short lived 1936 models to go with the oval backplates and shoes (some are cast iron, some aluminium) with the offset pivot. The rears should be 2 1/4" between centres and matched, on a standard set up, with front levers 2 3/8" between centres. The 1936 fronts look like Girling type ball ended levers but without the recess for the felt washer. As you point out the rear levers are handed, the eye is twisted slightly to match the approach angle of the cable, they should be installed leaning in towards the backplate.

Usually Bowden front levers are cranked (and handed) with 2", 2 1/4" or 2 3/8" between centres and came with equal length straight rear levers. I'm not sure how much science went into the design of these but some extra leverage, at a cost of pedal movement, is probably not a bad thing.

These standard rear levers are probably better than the short Bowden ones, equivalent to the mid sized ones and only slightly shorter than the 2 3/8" ones. They should work fine on a Bowden set up in my opinion.

Hope of use, Dave

As ever, Dave, thanks also for your extensive info on brakes. As a result, I've been re-measuring the levers I've got. The rears are 2 1/4", as you said, not 2 5/16" as I first thought. Of the Bowden fronts that I've got, one is 2 1/4", the other three are nearer 2 1/8", so I'm down to approximately 1/8" difference in length, front to rear. Having drawn arcs of 2 1/8" and 2 1/4" in my notebook, I can see that the difference in movement along a tangent is very small. So will probably just refit the rears, but properly handed. Look forward to the Speedex site re-emerging.

Thanks to all three of you for your help

John
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Bowdenex REAR levers - by John Mims - 25-04-2019, 08:37 PM
RE: Bowdenex REAR levers - by Ian Williams - 25-04-2019, 09:18 PM
RE: Bowdenex REAR levers - by Bob Culver - 26-04-2019, 01:10 AM
RE: Bowdenex REAR levers - by Speedex750 - 26-04-2019, 07:30 AM
RE: Bowdenex REAR levers - by John Mims - 26-04-2019, 09:45 AM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)