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Gordon England prototype - AllAlloyCup - 02-03-2018
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This photo, taken in 1925, has recently been posted on the Gallery
and shows some interesting features not seen on later Cup models.
Firstly the screen pillars disappear into the scuttle, near to where
The sidemarker sidelights are mounted rather than the front wings.
Also the radiator shell appears to be a colour?
No valances and extra bracing for the lamps and front wings.
Would this be BRG at that time at LeMans?
Lastly the tail shape appears to be different from the production shape.
Regards
Bill G
Aka AllAlloyCup
RE: Gordon England prototype - JonE - 03-03-2018
rad shell appears to be different shape too?
RE: Gordon England prototype - Mike Costigan - 03-03-2018
My understanding is that this 1925 Le Mans entry was the first Cup-style body that Gordon England built, and as a result of the race performance he went into production, the name coming from the Le Mans Biennial Cup competition. So this could be describes as the prototype Cup Model; note the door shape is very different from the production version, too.
RE: Gordon England prototype - Chris Garner - 03-03-2018
Both the radiator core and the lights are protected by a mesh screen. That on the radiator is very similar to that fitted to the three Work's cars entered for the '23 Le Mans, being rounded or curved.
The mesh was not sufficient however to stop a stone piercing the core, leading to retirement on lap eight.
Samuelson is behind the wheel with Gordon England alongside.
Once repaired the car was out again in August, at Boulogne this time, with Gordon England driving and his wife as passenger. They finished 9th. The car was deemed a success and so went into production as the Cup model.
RE: Gordon England prototype - AllAlloyCup - 03-03-2018
I’m interested in what’s on the radiator cap?
Is it a Calormeter? It looks like a small elephant!
Some racing cars often have an overflow fitting
On the radiator cap. Is it on the Boulogne images?
The back end of a Cup does look like the rear end
Of a baby elephant.....
Bill G
RE: Gordon England prototype - David.H - 03-03-2018
What is the box under the running board? It looks as if the top is a step & that it is in fact a drawer?
I think the mascot looks more like a mule/donkey!
RE: Gordon England prototype - Mike Costigan - 03-03-2018
The box under the running board is probably to carry small spares; for the race any repairs had to be made using only parts carried on the car, so maybe a supply of nuts, bolts and washers!
RE: Gordon England prototype - AllAlloyCup - 03-03-2018
No running board box on the Boulogne
Photos of this car, as the regs would be different?
No mascot either.
Are there other photos of this car?
Those two are the only ones I’ve seen.
Ps just bought a nickel baby elephant mascot!
Regards
Bill G
RE: Gordon England prototype - AllAlloyCup - 28-11-2018
Cup. Here’s the baby elephant mentioned previously,
a period AA badge and an old SA7C badge.
I’ll post photos of them mounted on the Cup Progress
Thread.
Still intrigued by the rear of this car...
Regards
Bill G
RE: Gordon England prototype - Bob Culver - 28-11-2018
Is the photo taken in France? Military uniform not Tommy? The robust late model Yank (with latest balloon tyres) is lhd.